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  3. The problem with trying to explain that social science has useful ideas to nerds in tech is that they exclusively experience social science as a weapon used against them by MBA's

The problem with trying to explain that social science has useful ideas to nerds in tech is that they exclusively experience social science as a weapon used against them by MBA's

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    The problem with trying to explain that social science has useful ideas to nerds in tech is that they exclusively experience social science as a weapon used against them by MBA's

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      The problem with trying to explain that social science has useful ideas to nerds in tech is that they exclusively experience social science as a weapon used against them by MBA's

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      For me, a community college anthropology class was the point in my life when I felt the tectonic plates of my mind for the first time.

      Like, I had known things about people and society before then, but none of it made a cohesive whole. Nothing made sense.

      Every idea in my head that makes me come off to anyone as "wise" I learned in some kind of: anthropology, mythology, human geography, or psychology, class that I took at Green River community college.

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        For me, a community college anthropology class was the point in my life when I felt the tectonic plates of my mind for the first time.

        Like, I had known things about people and society before then, but none of it made a cohesive whole. Nothing made sense.

        Every idea in my head that makes me come off to anyone as "wise" I learned in some kind of: anthropology, mythology, human geography, or psychology, class that I took at Green River community college.

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        Most people haven't had that! They took stuff that was in their major at a university and treated all their gen-ed requirements as time off from "real work"

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          Most people haven't had that! They took stuff that was in their major at a university and treated all their gen-ed requirements as time off from "real work"

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          On top of that, outside of a classroom context where you can build up to a thesis over several days of lecture, when I'm forced to try and explain concepts I learned in class succinctly, they come off as home truths.

          Classic example: "Other people always do things for good reasons"

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            On top of that, outside of a classroom context where you can build up to a thesis over several days of lecture, when I'm forced to try and explain concepts I learned in class succinctly, they come off as home truths.

            Classic example: "Other people always do things for good reasons"

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            Like no fucking duh, "people have motivations", but that's a conclusion I was brought to after weeks of talking about how when you look at someone in another place doing something differently that the difference is pretty much always an adaptation to the local environment.

            Why do people here make houses out of wood and people there make houses out of stone and sod? They don't got any trees and the wind is harsher.

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              Like no fucking duh, "people have motivations", but that's a conclusion I was brought to after weeks of talking about how when you look at someone in another place doing something differently that the difference is pretty much always an adaptation to the local environment.

              Why do people here make houses out of wood and people there make houses out of stone and sod? They don't got any trees and the wind is harsher.

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              Who do people over here have a serious taboo against incest to the point of finding even 2nd cousin marriage groty, and people over there think marrying your first cousin is perfectly respectable and marrying someone from too far outside your clan is a bad idea?

              Well, you're not a subsistence farmer/herder who is constantly fighting with the neighboring clans about grazing rights on a bunch of rocky hillsides.

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                Who do people over here have a serious taboo against incest to the point of finding even 2nd cousin marriage groty, and people over there think marrying your first cousin is perfectly respectable and marrying someone from too far outside your clan is a bad idea?

                Well, you're not a subsistence farmer/herder who is constantly fighting with the neighboring clans about grazing rights on a bunch of rocky hillsides.

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                I could go on, but your average business major has been taught from books by someone who read social science texts from other disciplines and then did their best to simplify the conclusions into something useful.

                This is where the foolishness creeps in, because if you take the conclusions by themselves without working for them, you don't really understand what they mean.

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